Is anti-Irish racism still a problem? You can Bank on it

Is anti-Irish racism still a problem? You can Bank on it

Maureen McBride

In January 2019, American hip-hop singer Azealia Banks made headlines with a series of anti-Irish comments on social media following a row with Aer Lingus cabin crew on a flight from London to Dublin. Her initial comments, branding Irish women ‘ugly’, soon escalated into a rather bizarre anti-Irish rant which contained overt racializing language:

You lot are a bunch of prideful inbred leprechauns who have ZERO global influence and ZERO white privilege. The rest of the world’s white folk don’t want to associate with you lot at all and it’s because you are barbarians.

I’m happiest knowing the Irish are quarantined on an isle so they can continue to inbreed and keep their defective genes away from humanity.

Banks is no stranger to controversial statements. In 2016, she was dropped from her headline slot at a UK festival after making racist and homophobic remarks (again on social media) towards former One Direction singer Zain Malik. In this latest outburst, she once again faced accusations of racism, this time against Irish people. Engaging with various challenges to her comments, she responded to one online critic with ‘Don’t you all have a famine to go die in?’ a reference to the Great Irish Famine of 1845-1852, the tragic event in which one million people died of starvation and a further one million were displaced.

As undoubtedly offensive as these comments were, it is probably not the case that Banks holds deep-seated racially driven prejudice against Irish people. It could be that her outburst was simply another publicity seeking exercise during her tour of the UK and Ireland. Yet many people construed her comments as examples of anti-Irish racism and many termed it ‘hate speech’. Indeed, her statement about the Irish having ‘zero white privilege’ do actually demonstrate some insight into the complexity of racism which is so frequently constructed in binary, colour-coded terms. It was this comment in particular which sparked my attention on the incident, given my own personal and research interests in the question of anti-Irish racism. My research focuses specifically on Scotland, and I argue that the experiences of Irish Catholics illustrates why debates on what ‘counts’ as racism are often taking place on unhelpfully narrow terrain. This is particularly the case in Scotland, because it has contributed to a ‘no problem here’ narrative in which Scotland is presented as a nation free from racism, but these arguments also have wider resonance.

I recently completed my doctoral research on the phenomenon that is commonly referred to as ‘sectarianism’ in Scotland. Although the thesis was entitled ‘Rethinking Sectarianism’, the way in which the term is both conceptualised and popularly understood is so problematic that many would argue we should stop using it altogether. Part of the problem is that a ‘culture of equivalence’ tends to frame much of the political, media and public discourse, as well as the dominant academic work on the topic: ‘sectarianism’ is constructed as a problem of tensions between two ‘sides’ or ‘communities’: Protestants and Catholics. A history of unequal power relations in which the Irish Catholic minority experienced processes of racialisation, structural inequalities and overt discrimination tends to be overlooked or at best referred to as a ‘thing of the past’ with no reference to the legacy of inequality in contemporary society. I am from an Irish Catholic background and I grew up in Glasgow, so my personal and family experiences were undoubtedly a factor in drawing me towards this research. Yet growing up, I would never have considered my own experiences of anti-Irishness, or those of my ancestors, as a type of racism, nor indeed would most of my family of friends. I think that notions of what racism is are often very fixed. However, my research, which focused on the Irish Catholic experience in Scotland both historically and in the present day, brought me to the position that we should view sectarianism as a form of racism.

Yet historical research clearly demonstrates the presence of anti-Irish racism in Scotland and elsewhere in the UK, and in other places where Irish migrants settled, often in large numbers. Satnam Virdee’s book ‘’Racism, Class and the Racialized Outsider’ (2014) revealed that Irish Catholics were, alongside Jews, Asians and those of Caribbean and African descent, occupied the position of ‘other’ in the British nation. Similarly, Garner (2009) contends that through colonial relations with Britain, the Irish were racialized, despite there being little visible difference sin skin colour or other physical characteristics. The Irish were frequently depicted as an ‘inferior race’, demonised in the media, stereotyped as violent and backwards, and accused of bringing disease and spreading criminality (Curtis 1984). Some of the language recently used by Azealia Banks to describe Irish people was not dissimilar to how Irish people were portrayed during the 19th and early 20th centuries, including in elite narratives.

The context of Britain’s colonial relationship with Ireland is too often overlooked, and this is a crucial omission, particularly in Scotland. In ‘No Problem Here: Understanding Racism in Scotland’ (2018), myself and co-editors attempted to address this gap. Through paying attention to a specific aspect of Scotland’s imperial past, several chapters in the collection reflect on the fact that the Irish Catholics were a racialized group subject to similar process of negative stereotyping and discrimination as faced by newer migrants today. This is not only missing in much of the academic work on ‘sectarianism’ in Scotland, it is also marginalised in racism studies because of the predominance of colour-coded understandings of racism. Yet an understanding of how Irish Catholics were racialized historically and de-racialized over time, though in various ways still occupying and experiencing a sense of ‘outsider status’, reveals how racism and racialisation changes over time.

Gilroy (2004) emphasises ‘white Britain’s’ struggle with the legacy of the British Empire in relation to immigrant populations, regardless of whether the ‘immigrant’ in question may be second or third generation. In the case of Scotland, where the Irish represented the largest immigration movement, those from Irish Catholic backgrounds may still experience a sense of exclusion generations later. This is something that I address in the empirical study undertaken for my PhD, which included in-depth interviews with people from Irish Catholic backgrounds in Scotland. Several of my research participants experienced anti-Irish sentiment on a frequent basis, including the type of derogatory language that sparked this debate. Many of them were aware that Catholics (most of whom, in Scotland, come from Irish backgrounds) still lagged behind on a range of socio-economic indicators. Some felt strongly that the term ‘sectarianism’ was not sufficient in capturing or understanding their experiences, particularly when it was their perceived nationality, as opposed to their religion, that often made them targets for abuse.

Yet although a minority defined anti-Irishness as a form of racism, something that they had very much internalised, in many cases they were reflective of whether their experiences could ‘count’ as racism. This was particularly the case when making comparisons with how more ‘visible’ minorities endure prejudice. As well as this, some found that they faced resistance when attempting to explain their experiences as racism: that it is taken less seriously. Some of the reactions to the recent claims by Neil Lennon – the former Celtic and Hibernian manager – that he is a victim of anti-Irish racism, would support the suggestion that anti-Irish racism is simply taken less seriously. Moreover, the fact that Call it Out, a campaign group against anti-Irish racism, were forced to find an alternative venue for a public meeting because the Church of Scotland venue they had initially booked received threats if the event was to go ahead, strongly suggests that anti-Irish racism is a problem Scotland has yet to fully face up to.

In short, these examples point to the need to further open up debates about racism and Scotland and, more broadly, what counts as racism. Rather than viewing racism as a singular, static phenomenon, it is crucial to be alive to the multiple racisms that exist, in Scotland and elsewhere. Racism takes different forms in different places and contexts, and changes over time. Irish Catholics in Scotland historically experienced similar forms of racism that Polish people and travelling communities currently endure, and the legacy of historical inequalities and discrimination must also be more fully explored. Azealia Banks’ comment about ‘white privilege’ reveals an awareness that it has in fact never been equally shared, and a challenge for sociologists working in this area is to explore these complexities in more depth.

References
Curtis, L. (1984) Nothing but the same old story: the roots of anti-Irish racism, London: Information on Ireland
Davidson, N., Liinpää, M., McBride, M, Virdee, S. (2018) No Problem Here: Understanding Racism in Scotland
Garner, S. (2009) ‘Ireland: from racism without “race” to racism without racists’. Radical History Review, 104, pp. 41–56
Gilroy, P. (2004) After Empire: Melancholia or Convivial Culture, London: Routledge
Virdee, S. (2014) Racism, Class and the Racialized Outsider, London: Palgrave Macmillan

 

Maureen McBride is a sociologist currently working as a Research Associate on the Children’s Neighbourhoods Scotland project, based at the University of Glasgow. She completed her ESRC-funded PhD, entitled ‘Rethinking Sectarianism in Scotland’, at the University of Glasgow in 2018. Maureen co-edited and contributed to No Problem Here: Understanding Racism in Scotland, a book published by Luath Press in January 2018. 

Image Credit: ‘Kill all Taigs’ slogan on the Glasgow HQ of Irish Republican group Cairde na hEireann Source: Cairde na hEirean

15 Comment responses

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    March 06, 2019

    Actual Irish people live and work in Scotland with little or no problems. There are no structural impediments to Irish people progressing by hard work and endeavour. The only obstacle is in the mind set of the individual. Victimhood is the shackles which hold many back. This is not, however a trait of actual Irish people, it is only a problem associated with Scottish “faux Irish”.
    No doubt through your research you will already be aware that this group especially the sub-section of it which holds support for a certain football club and terrorist group dear are responsible for more sectarian hate crime than any other group pro rata in the country.
    This group of Celtic and IRA supporters of which you are part, called Call_It_Out appear to want to elevate sectarian crimes made by one side over the equivalent sectarian crimes made by those who form part of your group. Your entire article was a disgraceful attempt to reinforce this.
    It. Will. Fail.
    In a progressive. modern Scotland all hate crime will be treated equally. How dare you suggest that the slogan “KAT” should be considered worse than the equivalent “KAH”. They are the same insult used by the same Scottish working class people for exactly the same offensive reasons. Its repulsive that you would consider one racist and the other what? slightly offensive!? acceptable?!?… simply because one is directed against your side and not by your side!
    Your entire article is laughable, partisan nonsense. Remove the boulder from your shoulder and continue to enjoy the same freedoms and opportunities that all of us enjoy. You are 50 years too late with the victimhood.

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      March 10, 2019

      Dry your eyes I would suggest to you that opening your closed mind would be the better option for you.There are many people who are wilfully blind ! take a look in the mirror and try to come to terms with what is happening in Scotland at the present time.Whole streets are closed and taxpayers money wasted just to allow bigots to parade through the town spitting venom and bile and attacking people for no other reason than their faith.Try to keep up please.

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      June 05, 2020

      William sorry but your reply is complete bullshit. Take your blue tinted specks off eh. The scum who happily sing racist songs in Ibrox are allowed to do so because the Government cannot be arsed dealing with it. Be better to bulldoze that racist institute and bury that whole club with luck they may never return. They are the cancer of scotland

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    April 09, 2019

    I am in Scotland and im irish it is a massive problem more in parts of Scotland than rest of UK

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      May 05, 2020

      Except of course for the so called Ulster-Scots ( the planters ), who were put their by their English masters. It’s the Irish never giving into the English no matter what they hate because they have long done that. Hence they hate the Irish because they really have no true identity of their own as the English took it away from them but some were happy to give it up for a bit of land and their thirty pieces of silver.

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    July 17, 2019

    Okay this just got a lot more serious.

    Trump is using anti Irish immigration legislation to against Latinos. He isn’t racist against black people but he’s crazy racist against Latinos.

    He didn’t do anything for Puerto Rican’s and he is horrific to Mexican and Latin American immigrant.

    There an article in Mother Jones Sept 6 2018 by Noah Lanard
    An old Anti Irish law is at the heart of Trumps plan to reshape immigration.

    This makes more sense give current USA police. The Latinos are taking over the country, and people want to exploit them.

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    August 09, 2019

    I was with my family shopping in a premier club store. Asked three times about the product we purchased then after going through all the security checks, the security man followed us outside and again checked our receipt. I tried to make sense of it, but in the end could not come to any other conclusion that it was to do with us being Irish.

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    February 27, 2020

    Dr McBride I thank you for all of your incredible research and I commend you for sharing these facts. Unlike most other races of people the Irish Catholic don’t whine and complain about injustice and inequality, we do something about it! After suffering genocide multiple times at the hands of the English, then coming to America to be forced to fight a war that had nothing to do with us (but did free another race of people) we were tortured and tormented just like the germans did to the Jewish people in the late 1930s and early 1940s. The Irish Catholic in America were hated and suppressed and even though all that we took the most powerful position in the world… the American presidency.

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    May 28, 2020

    I’m Irish worked on Merseyside, ‘the capital of Ireland’ for many years.
    I’ve experienced lots of discrimination whilst working for over two decades on the Wirral. The stereotype is still very much alive, without a doubt.
    There are laws to protect people but it seems not many to enforce them.

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    June 07, 2020

    Well it’s not hard to understand given their actions (or lack of) during WW2, the terrorist tactics in the 60’s and 70’s, the murder of civilians (women, children, innocent men), a bombing campaign that was an eerie precursor to ISIS, the too true to life caricature of drunken, brawling behavior and their absolutely foul mouthed language that never ceases to amaze even casual observers. Christian behavior has become extinct while this fixation with “Catholicism” is more ethnic in nature than a love of God. The nation is lost.

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      June 18, 2020

      Your comment is not a serious historical one, it is merely cramming in as much anti-Irish / Catholic hatred as possible. I’m an Irish Catholic (cultural), but you are too cowardly to declare your background.

      I don’t bother with general comments about extent of anti-Irish racism but when I specifically hear / see it, I deal with it. My response is very brief as your comment does not warrant depth:
      – The main reason Ireland did not enter WW2 as we would have had to allow Britain back in to hold bases particularly on West / South coast. We would never have got rid of Britain again which is proven by the Libyans had to threaten Britain militarily to leave Libya in 1971
      – in 1969 the IRA split into the Official IRA and Provional IRA, but that is too complex for you so you just call them “the IRA” even though they had very different philosophies
      It was the Protestant UVF that carried out bombings in the 1960s, starting in 1966 and also committing the first murder in 1966. The Provisionals carried out their first bombing in 1970 , with neither IRA commiting bombing in the 1960s. The PIRA continued their bombings until 1996 and you appear to not even know that
      – ISIS were not influenced by the PIRA, or even by the pro-Israel blowing up the King David Hotel in 1947, and your comment is absurd.
      ISIS (formerly Al Qaeda in Iraq and redundant Iraqi soldiers before that) got their inspiration from the American / British 2003 invasion of Iraq for their oil steal
      – your comment about Irish Catholics is nothing more than naked sectarian hatred by you who doesn’t have the courage to state your background / location. I would not give your comment on this the dignity of a more detailed response.
      – it is very clear that you do not believe in Jesus Christ, nor do you live your life by his teachings. You are typical of many extremists who use Jesus Christ as an excuse to hate others

      I cannot see from your comment what you offer the planet.

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      September 22, 2020

      Let me give you some of the reasons Irish people are not so fond of the British and see which one weighs heavier shall we?

      Imported Landlords and Planters into Ireland to strip the land off the native people and leave them no choice but to work on that land for the same people who stripped it from them or else die in extreme poverty.

      Introduced Penal Laws for the sole objective that these people could never progress because they could not take part in the Political system, they could not own land, they could not practise their religion, They could not intermarry, they could not take part in the legal system, they could not get an education, they couldn’t teach, they couldn’t even a horse worth over £5.

      British Army used Barbaric levels of force and weaponised rape against the Irish people as a way to crush rebellions and they also kidnapped women and children off the streets to be taken to the Caribbean under the guise that they were rebels & criminals just for merely residing in a place where an uprising had taken place they used them as the testing ground for chattel slavery in the Caribbean.

      Allowed 1,000,000 UK Citizens (as all of Ireland was part of the United Kingdom at the time) many of them children to starve to death while exporting enough food to feed the entire country.

      During the war of Independence created a military police force who also weaponised rape and used torture methods on totally random people in thousands of rural towns and villages across Ireland and routinely carried out random attacks on civilians for example the Croke park massacre.

      Created the Partition in Ireland and as a result of that produced a totally racist and sectarian system of inequality in Northern Ireland which led to the troubles, On a number of occasions During the troubles the British Army who had apparently been brought to Ireland to protect the catholic community from Loyalist terrorism massacred totally innocent Irish Catholic Civilians (Bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy) and also lets not forget British Government colluded with Loyalist Terrorists who almost only targeted Irish Catholic civilians and murdered 33 Innocent people in one day (The Dublin & Monaghan Bombings).

      If you take all that into account and still try and say to me with a straight face that’s its not hard to understand why many British people dislike Irish people because they remained Neutral in WW2 I would laugh in your face because that is totally absurd and it’s just ridiculous, Christians are supposed to have empathy and you seem to show absolutely none of that.

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    June 09, 2020

    It always amazes me that an Irish Republican Organisation has a “headquarters” in Glasgow. Given the Good Friday Agreement and the current power sharing arrangements agreed between the U.K. and R.O.I. what is it’s purpose? If it is a cover for raising funds to support terrorism in Northern Ireland it is clearly an illegal or proscribed organisation which should be closed down. There is no reason for a republican group to be represented in Glasgow.

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      September 22, 2020

      The Group Cairde na hÉireann is a political organisation based in Glasgow its an extension of the much larger ”Friends of Sinn Féin” Organisation which is basically for Supporters of Provisional Sinn Féin outside of Ireland, they are totally in support of the Good Friday Agreement and the peace process they sell books & badges and they organise marches that’s about it, they also have a shop in Coatbridge called the Margaret Skinnider Centre the funds go to funding Provisional Sinn Féin’s Campaign and their activities.

      It’s not clearly an Illegal or proscribed organisation if it were it would have been shut down do you even the meaning of the words that you are using? There is 100 percent reason for Irish Republican groups to be present in Glasgow and North Lanarkshire the reason is a large amount of people (predominantly Roman Catholics of Irish Heritage) agree with the Aims of Irish Republicanism in Scotland whether you like it or not, It’s Illegal to incite murder and hatred by spraying ”Kill all Taigs” on the shutters of a building it is not illegal to share the opinions of a Political party that people can legally vote for in the United Kingdom.

      You clearly struggle with grasping reality.

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